Interview with Nevin Aladağ
By Michelangelo Corsaro
MC: The show takes place in a border area, not only between Greece and Turkey, but also between Europe and Asia. What does it mean for you to show your work in Samos, facing the coast of Turkey, which is clearly visible from the Art Space Pythagorion venue?
NA: Coming to Samos for the first time, one immediately senses the invisible but still very obvious border, not only between two countries but also between Europe and the “rest” of the world. Samos being an island frequently facing the arrival of refugees by sea, and Frontex watching the sea borders—all these facts had a strong impact on me. In these moments you realize again that being born on “this” or the “other” side is just coincidence—yet it often determines everything.
You are left with this very ambivalent feeling of being on an island where during the day you see people on vacation, while at night refugees struggle to reach the shore.
MC: With regard to issues of immigration, globalisation, and representation of cultural identity, what does the notion of border mean to you? How do the geographical and psychological implications of the concept of border come together into your work?
NA: I deal with different aspects of these issues in my works. There is the question of limitation, whether imposed by society or physically, the material itself, or political conditions. Often, I try to question these to establish new reading options or redefine their meaning. In some cases, I try to realize site-specific projects as here in Samos, where I react to the geopolitical situation. As borders manifest themselves mentally, ideologically, or geographically, to name only a few ways, I try to approach the subject on many levels.
MC:Your works often seem to address the encounter between a political and a subjective experience of the body. How is your practice shaped around these two different perceptions of the body?
NA: A political and a subjective experience of the body are often intertwined, I think. Some of my works relate very much to an individual, physical experience of the self that might be parallel to, or different from what that same body can mean as a political entity. Bodies are embedded within a multiplicity of dependencies and to reveal some of them and how they interact with each other would be one theme in my work that falls within this scope.
MC: What is your perspective on the friction between modernity and tradition? How do these two concepts affect your work with regard to the way you question the notion of identity?
NA: Modernity, tradition and identity—these are three very different, complex and controversial concepts. To speak of a friction between modernity and tradition I would first need to accept the notion of modernity as such, which is not uncomplicated, and then see it as an opposing force to tradition, which might also not be true. But from a more personal experience and point of view: I was brought up in two different traditions, yet I experienced this as mainly a positive thing. I have always appreciated a state of flux, rather than holding on to one singular concept or idea of identity.
MC: What interests you most, as an artist, in your relation to the communities that interact with your work? Which challenges are still to be faced in participatory artistic practices?
NA: Communities not only interact with some of my works; they can also be part of them as in the performative works Mezzanine or Occupation, in which they play an important role. Sometimes they lend their voice, or take part in a large organized dance performance with no specific choreography, but based on the input of their own styles and moves. In that sense, the communities are able to not only be the receiver of my works, but to be part of them, too. One great challenge in participatory art practices remains: to combine all these elements in productive ways. So that, ultimately, the work explores an issue related to the social or political conditions of the people, integrates the people physically, mentally and emotionally into the piece, and finally radiates back to the community in a creative way.
Interview with Nevin Aladağ
By Michelangelo Corsaro
MC: The show takes place in a border area, not only between Greece and Turkey, but also between Europe and Asia. What does it mean for you to show your work in Samos, facing the coast of Turkey, which is clearly visible from the Art Space Pythagorion venue?
NA: Coming to Samos for the first time, one immediately senses the invisible but still very obvious border, not only between two countries but also between Europe and the “rest” of the world. Samos being an island frequently facing the arrival of refugees by sea, and Frontex watching the sea borders—all these facts had a strong impact on me. In these moments you realize again that being born on “this” or the “other” side is just coincidence—yet it often determines everything.
You are left with this very ambivalent feeling of being on an island where during the day you see people on vacation, while at night refugees struggle to reach the shore.
MC: With regard to issues of immigration, globalisation, and representation of cultural identity, what does the notion of border mean to you? How do the geographical and psychological implications of the concept of border come together into your work?
NA: I deal with different aspects of these issues in my works. There is the question of limitation, whether imposed by society or physically, the material itself, or political conditions. Often, I try to question these to establish new reading options or redefine their meaning. In some cases, I try to realize site-specific projects as here in Samos, where I react to the geopolitical situation. As borders manifest themselves mentally, ideologically, or geographically, to name only a few ways, I try to approach the subject on many levels.
MC:Your works often seem to address the encounter between a political and a subjective experience of the body. How is your practice shaped around these two different perceptions of the body?
NA: A political and a subjective experience of the body are often intertwined, I think. Some of my works relate very much to an individual, physical experience of the self that might be parallel to, or different from what that same body can mean as a political entity. Bodies are embedded within a multiplicity of dependencies and to reveal some of them and how they interact with each other would be one theme in my work that falls within this scope.
MC: What is your perspective on the friction between modernity and tradition? How do these two concepts affect your work with regard to the way you question the notion of identity?
NA: Modernity, tradition and identity—these are three very different, complex and controversial concepts. To speak of a friction between modernity and tradition I would first need to accept the notion of modernity as such, which is not uncomplicated, and then see it as an opposing force to tradition, which might also not be true. But from a more personal experience and point of view: I was brought up in two different traditions, yet I experienced this as mainly a positive thing. I have always appreciated a state of flux, rather than holding on to one singular concept or idea of identity.
MC: What interests you most, as an artist, in your relation to the communities that interact with your work? Which challenges are still to be faced in participatory artistic practices?
NA: Communities not only interact with some of my works; they can also be part of them as in the performative works Mezzanine or Occupation, in which they play an important role. Sometimes they lend their voice, or take part in a large organized dance performance with no specific choreography, but based on the input of their own styles and moves. In that sense, the communities are able to not only be the receiver of my works, but to be part of them, too. One great challenge in participatory art practices remains: to combine all these elements in productive ways. So that, ultimately, the work explores an issue related to the social or political conditions of the people, integrates the people physically, mentally and emotionally into the piece, and finally radiates back to the community in a creative way.